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Comment from: gr8dude Member
Good point - it is like trying to kill two rabbits and ending up being kicked in the ass by both of them :-)
However, if it is a part-time job and you can manage your time properly - you’ll be fine. That’s how it happened in my case.
I got my first real job in high-school, and I’ve had other, “unreal” :-) jobs prior to that.
Now I have 3 jobs (teaching, the company, and saving the world :-)
Comment from: alexandru Visitor
hello buddy :)
nice article.
it seems you had some bad experience with students (who are missing classes because of a part/full-time job) :)
I am an employee for.. hmm .. 3,5 years now, and my employer didn’t really invest much in me in terms of education.
I don’t have Java certification still (even if we were promised years ago).
But - I have this Documentum certification which will be almost useless if I go to another company that doesn’t use Documentum products.
So you see the point - investments are done only when necessary.
Java certification would be more useful and universal, and it would surely help me employ myself in another company; what good is it for the current employer?
People, hunt good employers :) .. or make yourself an employer.
Comment from: gr8dude Member
Hmm… they didn’t give you that, but maybe they gave you something else - knowledge shared by other, more experienced folk who work in the same company? Some skills? Some books?
We know that a paper that says “X graduated the university” doesn’t necessarily mean anything :-)
In the same fashion, I wouldn’t conclude that an employer that doesn’t send their people to training courses is a bad employer; they can reward and support the employees’ self-improvement initiatives in other ways.
But if they don’t do that, or if they actively discourage people to do that on their own - that’s a serious problem.
Comment from: alexandru Visitor
I didn’t learn almost anything from the other employees because I was one of the very first to come to the company.
I learnt only from other Romanian/Italian companies where I worked, or, more correctly speaking - where I was sold.
It was more self-improvement, no real encouragement from the company. As I get better they can sell me for more money.
Why certification was good? Well, they had to buy us good books in order to learn for the certification, which is nice.
Also, they gave us time just for learning (normal-payed time), which is also very nice.
I would like to continue the same way with Java and Oracle.
But they wouldn’t let me, as it doesn’t improve company’s profit, really.
and I can assure that studying and working will make most of people get crazy of how tired they will feel afterwards. So, they won’t neigher learn good enough, not work on full energy and screw out both opportunies. Don’t do it.