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Comment from: strelnikov Visitor
Comment from: gr8dude Member
If that’s your opinion, you should re-read the article, or back it up with some statements and convince me otherwise.
Cheating is bad in any case, the point of the article is that sometimes it is less bad - but that doesn’t mean we should employ this form of “problem solving".
Comment from: Vladiusik Visitor
I agree about the education related cheating…
As to cheating in a relationship, I doubt that talking about it is going to help…
In this matter people make a choice, and I believe it is wrong to even consider “circumstances” as a plausible excuse.
People who cheat either:
a) don’t love you
b) don’t know how to love you
c) are misguided in concern to the meaning of a “relationship”
d) have different ["modern"] moral values
e) have a self-destruction maniacal depression tendency
One can choose to find an excuse, but that doesn’t make up for the deed. Anyway, cheating is a choice one makes.
Comment from: gr8dude Member
I absolutely agree with you. As I responded to the first comment - cheating is bad in any case.
Let me explain - the article is not about what makes cheating good, it is about what makes people think that cheating is acceptable. In other words, it is not about “us forgiving them", it is about “them justifying their own actions to themselves".
I think everyone has a rationale when they make a choice; people don’t cheat because “I am evil and cheating is what evil people do for a living”. They cheat if they have an excuse that enables them to continue to be able to look at themselves in the mirror (or if according to their philosophy, what they are about to do is not “cheating").
For a human, it is important that their inner world is consistent and their perception of themselves is a positive one (unless they are not “normal").
The right solution in the case of relationships, in my opinion, is to break the relationship if you know it is not working. What happens after that is not “cheating” anymore.
You’re absolutely right in what you wrote, but then - you are also a reasonable person. People who do cheat are people who think in a different way, for them it is neither (a), nor (b)… they cannot reason the way you do - that’s why they go for it.
Comment from: cosanzeana Visitor
să fii geniu e tot un fel de a trișa, pentru că folosești arme pe care celălalt nu le are, nu are acces la ele
Comment from: gr8dude Member
Da, sustin aceasta idee, dar nu fara de a o ajusta :-)
Cunoasterea nu este un “zero sum game” (un tip de joc in care cistigul cuiva implica faptul ca oponentul pierde).
Asta inseamna urmatoarele: daca proful povesteste ceva la lectie si un elev a inteles tema, asta nu inseamna ca alti elevi nu pot s-o inteleaga.
In contrast (daca e zero sum game), daca in frigider este o ciocolata, iar fratele si sora sunt in competitie, atunci acel care cistiga primeste ciocolata, iar celalalt ramine cu nimic.
Informatia poate fi distribuita si copiata usor. Daca ai citit o carte, poti s-o dai altcuiva si altcineva tot va invata din ea. Daca ai copiat un fisier MP3 din internet asta nu inseamna ca ai intrat in buzunarul artistului si ai furat din el 5$, si nu inseamna ca altii nu vor putea asculta acel MP3.
In contrast, daca ai mincat ciocolata - nu mai poti s-o dai nimanui, ea nu mai exista :-)
Deci, omul mai experimentat foloseste arme pentru ca stie cum sa le foloseasca; el nu e responsabil de faptul ca oponentul nu le poate folosi. Nu le poate folosi din propria incompetenta\lene, nu pentru ca nu i-o permite omul mai avansat.
Eu aplic aceasta idee intr-un alt context - niciodata nu pariez. Daca nu sunt sigur ca voi cistiga - nu joc. Daca sunt sigur ca voi cistiga, nu e cinstit fata de oponent - nu joc. Acest principiu il aplic cu prietenii; cu strainii e mai simplu - nu joc :-)
cheatin is good. only if ur good at it. if not it sux.
iti plac raelienii?