How religion might work
Him, wanting to become a priest... My god, SOME change there! I believe it's all in his mind. I don't understand why people attribute divine intervention where it's merely the power of mind and lack of power over your mind or just general weakness and lack of knowledge about science... Oh well, that's up to him to decide, isn't it.
Now it hit me - assume that there is some mechanism in our body that controls these things. We cannot control that mechanism directly. However, some people can indirectly reach it via meditation, or via positive thinking, or some other methods (ex: music+meditation); while another group of people doesn't have the background for that (i.e. no self-concentration skills), and that's where religion comes into action. People pray to god, this triggers some events in their brains.. For instance - when praying, a person REALLY puts its effort into the prayer, thus it concentrates (sometimes it takes a lot of times to repeat the enchanting verses) - and then, when concentration is at its apogee, that part of our brain is finally switched online, and then the person can control THE mechanism. (Self-healing and super-inspiration... they work this way)
In other words, religion is just an instrument that helps people accomplish certain objectives. But since it's been happening for thousands of years, people forgot that religion is a tool that helps one reach goals, and instead religion became the goal itself.
And maybe that's how it works - if people realized it wasn't religion and glory of god they're after - the effect would disappear. Otherwise, if they pray realizing that it has nothing to do with god - it becomes a 'usual' meditation. (And so, the effect is spoiled)
I think that religion-starters were super-intelligent people. Pick Jesus for example, assuming that he really existed, he was able to establish a technique that helped even the non-qualified control that hidden mechanism of the brain. He must've been a hell of a good doctor, psychologist and a myriad of other ___ists -> all in one. Then he used the works of the others (the Old Testament) as a framework for his methodology. So he was a very wise man, as he could attach his ideas to the existing ones without ruining the big picture. It's how viruses work - they attach to their host and keep the host alive, because as long as the host lives and multiplies - so does the virus (this applies to computer and biological viruses).
It is said that today, when society is so hi-tech, people still need religion, as they still haven't learned how to use that mechanism DIRECTLY. We should explore ourselves.
The Asians did that years ago... Confucius and the others - they were philosophers who encouraged people to think, not to knee in front of an imaginary entity. As you can see - both methods work, but the Asian projects prove that god is not a necessary element in the chart.
So why do miracles happen? First of all, real miracles (i.e. miracles that can happen) happen because they do not require a divine intervention (like curing someone of a hardcore disease), while bogus miracles don't happen at all. What they write about statues that bleed is just a story that was passed from father to son; and reviving dead people is the same kind of miracle - they needed this then, so that credibility went upwards (nobody had the tech to disprove that at those times; but now it's been hanging around for centuries and you can't just get rid of it).
So, when someone says that god cannot be understood logically - I happen to disagree. Some people cannot understand god logically, others don't need a god in order to figure out how things work. Of course I'm not saying that I can trigger that mechanism directly, I too might be doing it indirectly, it's just that my tools are anything but the bible and a cross.
vica — 2005-12-15 03:33
that maked perfect sense.
same thing with yoga's "ohmmm"...
in loc de sa recite textul "doamne, iata imi trebu un carburator nou la mashina, ai mila si ajuta-ma te rog sa gasesc un mod de a cishtiga mai multzi bani,etc" cei cu yoga spun "ohmmmm" si gindesc: "mdea.. am nevoie de un nou carbrator...ohmmm...oare cum sa fac mai multzi bani... ohmmm"
si "ohmmm" si "rugaciunea" au acelashi scop... amindoua dau posibilitatea omului sa se gindeasca la ceea de ce are nevoie, si cum sa ajunga la acel lucru. amindoua sunt forme de meditatzii, dar rugaciunea e mai periculoasa, fiindca incurajeaza pasivitatea omeneasca (sau lenevia). Cind oamenii se roaga, ei au tendintza sa spere prea mult ca divinitatea va interveni in viatza lor si ii va ajuta, deci, oamenii nu aplica toate fortzele sale, fiindca se gindesc ca vor primi ajutor de sus. Pe cind "ohmmmm"-ul concentreaza omul la fortzele sale individuale. Prin "ohmmm" omul se gindeshte la cum ar putea singur sa lupte pentru ceea de ce are nevoie, si sa nu ashtepte ca totul sa-i cada de sus.
iak asa filozofie... cu noaptea in cap.